Mr Falcon: I am curious: why did you choose Mengele as scientist? Or was this satiric?
Nika Bee
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LIST your 12 FAVORITES!
by Terry infavorite:.
1.book: godel,escher,bach: an eternal golden braid [douglas r. hofstadter] .
2.movie: synechdoche, new york (written and directed by charlie kauffman) .
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LIST your 12 FAVORITES!
by Terry infavorite:.
1.book: godel,escher,bach: an eternal golden braid [douglas r. hofstadter] .
2.movie: synechdoche, new york (written and directed by charlie kauffman) .
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Nika Bee
1.Book: Jorge Bucay: Déjame que te cuente (Let me tell you)
2.Movie: Jenseits der Stille (Beyond silence)
3.Drink: Green tea
4.Artist: Frida Kahlo
5.Opera: Mozart: Die Zauberflöte(The magic flute)
6.Song:Mumford and sons: Thistle and weeds
7.Classical composer: Antonio Vivaldi
8.Music (contemporary): Apocalyptica
9. Painting: Escher: Relativity
10.Scientist: Alexander Grothendieck
11.Philosopher: Herákleitos ho Ephésios
12.Car: a perpetuum mobile
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any fluent german and english speakers?
by jamesmahon ini know it is a big ask but i have a personal message in german that i need to translate into english.
tried the online translators and they are good but there are some important nuances i think i am missing.
james.
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Nika Bee
I could help with German if it is still needed.
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My first own thread on here. Woken up and still in :(
by Gefangene ini have been around in this forum a lot but haven't written much yet.. also i had a more or less rude awakening when i realized that the religion i grew up with, the religion i sacrificed a lot for and considered to be the 'truth' is nothing but mere bs.
it's quite a brick to digest.. my parents both are jws, elder and pioneer.
very good people but also very brainwashed.
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Nika Bee
Welcome from yet another German, although I don't live there anymore. Mostly in the US, at the moment in France.
I'm from close to the border to Austria.
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Have you ever worked with someone famous or relatives of any celebrity?
by Iamallcool ini have!
i worked with hank aaron's daughter for 18 months.
she was a sweet lady.
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Nika Bee
Depends how you define famous.
I worked with famous scientists - famous in their field, not to the general public.
I went to secondary school with a girl who would be an olympic gold medalist in 2010.
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Talked to an elder
by Nika Bee ini am at home now, my family knows that i am out and it's somewhat ok.. during the time i spent here, i had the interesting pleasure of talking to an elder who i've known since childhood.
just for the background, he always regretted not going to university and there where also issues with military service.
but this discussion was kind of, well, interesting.
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Nika Bee
I am at home now, my family knows that I am out and it's somewhat ok.
During the time I spent here, I had the interesting pleasure of talking to an elder who I've known since childhood. Just for the background, he always regretted not going to university and there where also issues with military service. But this discussion was kind of, well, interesting. (And sorry, this is not so easy to translate.)
- We talked about, why I am not going to meetings anymore. I told him one point was the way I was treated, he understood, but said imperfection of men should not keep you from rejecting god's organisation. He said as an elder he has seen many bad things inside, some are saying that you should not employ fellow brothers, but this doesn't keep him from trusting "the slave".
- Later we talked about changes in doctrines. He said, he knows things change constantly, for example the revelation book. He doesn't even listen to it, one shouldn't look to the details and overall it's much better than the catholic church who never makes changes.
He said he remembered '75, and it was a huge issue in his congregation, many where disgrunteled, angry, sad. But those who kept things in perspective thrived afterwards.
- I asked, if doctrines and rules change, is it still the "truth", was it all the time the truth, even if it was wrong later? He: Yes.
- I asked, if one shouldn't look for details, how do we know this is god's organisation.
He said, you have to look at the big picture.
I asked, what is the big picture, if doctrines and rules can change, and if he admits, there are issues with the love that is not shown as it should be.
He said, look at the work, at bethel, all the printing.
Me: Even if they print things that are wrong?
He just shrugged the shoulders.
- At some point he said, one doesn't need to be informed to know that this is god's organisation. One doens't need to know the history, only look what is now. Forget about 75 and other things it's not a big deal.
- We talked about child abuse. He said he would do anything to protect children. He hadn't heard about the Conti case. He said, if he had a case of child abuse in the congregation, which he thankfully hadn't at the moment (from which I concluded that there must have been something in the past, either before I was born, or something that was kept secret) the brother in question would never get any privileges.
Then he said something that made me speechles: in any case, if there is a case of abuse/rape there is always some joint guilt at the victim or the parent (they just haven't protected thair children well enough).
- We talked about why god is portraied so cruel in the OT. Apperently he had read an article, that said, in a conflict civil war the hatred is passed on from the parents to the childre, therefore it was the best Jehova could do for his people to order them to kill the children and women with their enemies, or to kill them at the flood.
I asked him, how he would feel in the situation if he was about to kill a child?
He said, well they will be resurrected anyway.
I asked, even the ones from the flood or Sodom and Gomorrha?
He said yes about the flood, and about Sodom and Gomorrha he wasn't sure - but he said, they were bad through and through anyway. And for sure all the children would probably be the same way.
Sorry, this is not very well written down. There were more things, but these were the main things I remember. We didn't end on a bad note, he seemed really confused though.
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More excrement in the fan
by outsmartthesystem inwell.....i am now officially on the precipice of divorce.
it started last tuesday night.
my wife brings the kids home at 10:00 pm after the meeting....then dinner....then ice cream.
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Nika Bee
This is so tough. Be strong, hang in there, you are brave!
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Those Wonderful Kingdom Songs
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Nika Bee
I grew up with the brown songbook. I don't remember a lot of the lyrics though, because I played violin and viola at the meetings as soon as I was old enough. In our best times we had a pretty big "orchestra": 2 celli, 4 violins, 1 viola, 3 flutes, 1 piano, 1 bass, 2 guitars.
As I had the most experience and musical training, the other musicians suggested that I would take the lead, count at the beginning and hold the group together. But of course as I am a girl, this was not possible.
There were some songs that I really liked, where you could put your soul in the melody. Some were just really awkward. Some would have been nice, if one would be allowed to play them differently - slower or faster - but of course with the singing this was not an option. When I was bored during the meetings, I used to imgine the melody and voices of the next song in my head, and imagined different alterations that I wanted to try out.
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Will they get rid of the FDS concept?
by Hermano inwhat do they need the fds concept for?
it's a weak idea, based on one scripture which is a rhetorical question.
they've already published several articles indicating that just because you are annointed doesn't mean you have any special insight, so they've already disconnected annointed from leadership.
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Nika Bee
I agree with Quendi that it is an important concept also for the rank-and-files.
Of course I can only speak for myself. I have been hearing this "word" from infancy, and I just learned it as any other word. If you learn that a table is called "table" you don't question what the meaning of the word is. The same was it with the "faithful-and-discreet-slave". I have the impression that it was mentioned quite often. Even if one doesn't understand the meaning, you can't take it away, I think it would shake people up - they might even start thinking.
I didn't think about the concept, or the word, until I heard and read it in a different language than my native language...
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....and a new wrinkle
by outsmartthesystem inso i was giving my daughter a hug at bed time last night.
she stands up at the foot of her bed and wraps her arms around my neck.
she then asks why i don't serve jehovah anymore.
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Nika Bee
I am so sorry to read this.
My father was in a similar situation with me. My mother became a Witness around the time when I was born. I have some early memories about them arguing about religion and how to bring us up. But my father must have had a feeling that pressing the matter would just backfire.
I was told by my mother and other sisters to 'witness' to him, tell him to come to the meetings, play the worried daughter. But I really never did, I was never really outspoken. I hated it, when our mother told us not to tell him that we were going to the book study, but instead tell him we were going to play with friends. But still I have the feeling that this prevented me from having real conversations with my father, and a deep relationship.
My father was just really patient. He would od things with us as much as his work schedule permitted. Everyday things and fund things. I remember I was so proud that he let me help him change the tires of our car. When my mother was going out at night, we often looked at family pictures, and pictures when we were little.
He also was the one to encourage me to do well at school, to persue what I was interested in. He recognized even when I was in elementary school, that I had an interest and gift for math and logic. He would give me books on these subjects and magazines and articles. When I was older it was usually him driving me to math workshops and things like this.
No I am doing my PhD in math :-)
I called him not so long ago, to tell him, that I am not a Witness anymore, and to thank him. It was our first 'real' conversation, without anything standing between us. Since then, we have talked often and about a lot of things, and I really got to appreciate, how all these years must have been for him, what it must have meant to him to be so patient. I can't wait to go back home for a couple of weeks in two months.